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mvvwnK : RvgvqvZ Bmjvgxi wbeb Aea NvlYv KiQ DP Av`vjZ| Av`vjZi G ivqi cwZwqvq wK ejeb?

 

evwivi Avyi ivvK : c_g K_v nQ, mvwbZ wZb Rb wePvicwZi ga `yB Rb RvgvqvZi wbeb evwZji c ivq w`qQb Ges GKRb wgZ cvlY KiQb| Avgiv GLbI Rvwb bv h Kvb wePvicwZ GKgZ nZ cvibwb| Ze kvbv hvQ wcRvBwWs RvR wgZ cvlY KiQb| Avi mwU nq hw` _vK Zvnj R wePvicwZ RvgvqvZ Bmjvgxi c ivq w`qQb Avi Kwb wePvicwZMY wec ivq w`qQb| wePvicwZ`i cwZ m~Y kv iL ejwQ, msLvMwii GB ivqK Avwg KvbvfveB mwVK gb Kwi bv| GwU GKwU fyj ivq|

 

mvvwnK : Kb fyj gb KiQb?

 

Avyi ivvK : GB ivq fyj gb Kivi AbK KviY AvQ| c_gZ, wiU Ave`bwU wQj AcwicK| KviY h welqwU wQj wbevPb Kwgkbi weePbvaxb, mB welq Kvbv dqmvjv `qv DP Av`vjZi GLwZqviewnf~Z| wbevPb Kwgkbi AvBbRxex cwivi fvlvq Av`vjZ ejQb, welqwU GLbI wbevPb Kwgkbi weePbvaxb| GgZvevq h Kvbv Av`vjZ nc KiZ cvib bv, Zvic Avgiv evsjv`k I fviZi DP Av`vjZi AbK bwRi Dvcb KiwQ|

 

wZxqZ, wiU Ave`bKvix ZwiKZ dWvikbi bZv| wZwb Rbmv_ gvgjv KiQb| Rbmv_ Kvbv gvgjv KiZ nj Dby gb (clean hands) wbq AvmZ nq| GZ Zviv e_ nqQb| Zvi `vwe RvgvqvZ Bmjvgx GKwU ivRbwZK `j, hviv agK eenvi KiQ| wK ZwiKZ dWvikbi MVbZI wRnv`i K_v ejv AvQ, agi K_v ejv AvQ| GZ cgvwYZ nq ZwiKZ dWvikb Dby gb wbq Avmwb|

ZZxqZ, wbevPb Kwgkbi GKwU `wjj _K `Lv hvq AvIqvgx jxM I Rvm` Qvov evwK ivRbwZK `ji MVbZ wQj ywUc~Y| G Aevq GB ivqi gvag cvivi e Lvjv nZ cvi| cieZxZ hvi viv Abvb `jiI wbeb evwZj nZ cvi|

PZy_Z, MYZvwK eevq RbMYB wmv be Zviv Kvb `jK fvU `e ev bv `e| mLvb wePvi wefvM hw` wekl `jK Zv`i ivqi gvag wbevPbx cwqvi evBi ivLb Zv MYZ weKvki Rb mnvqK ne bv| GB chvq Avgiv AvgwiKvi mywcgKvUi GKwU bwRi Av`vjZ Dcvcb KiwQjvg| cvki `kK AvgwiKvq mgvRZi wei evcK RbgZ Mo IV| GKwU gvgjvi ivq mywcgKvU ejjb, hw`I hyivi msweavbi m mgvRZvwK gZv`k mvsNwlK Z_vwc Av`vjZ mgvRZK wbwl NvlYv KiZ cvi bv| RbMY wmv wbe Zviv wbevPb Kvbv GKwU mgvRZvwK `jK fvU `e wK `e bv| GUv RbMYi AwaKvi| mywcgKvU wbR`i GB weZK Rove bv| ZvB Avwg gb Kwi RvgvqvZi wbeb evwZji ivq msweavbi g~jevai (spirit) cwicx|

 

mvvwnK : Avcwb ejQb, ZwiKZ dWvikb GKwU agxq `j| wK Zviv MYgvavgi KvQ `vwe KiQ h, ZwiKZ dWvikb Kvbv agxq `j bq?

 

Avyi ivvK : Avgiv Av`vjZi mvgb ZwiKZ dWvikbi MVbZ Dcvcb KiwQ| ZvZ Ki wRnv`i K_v DjL AvQ|

 

mvvwnK : ejjb, `ywU `j ev` evwK me `ji wbebB ywUc~Y| Zv gvgjvi cwicwZ RvgvqvZi wbeb evwZj nIqv hwKB eU?

 

Avyi ivvK : gvUB hwK bq| GZ elg mw nZ cvi| welqwU myivnvi Rb wbevPb Kwgkbi Ici Qo `qv DwPZ wQj ej Avwg gb Kwi|

 

mvvwnK : Avcwb wbevPb Kwgkbi Ici Rvi w`Qb| wK Kwgkbi c _KI Zv Av`vjZi ivqi cwicwZ ejv nqQ h, RvgvqvZ Bmjvgxi wbeb Aea?

 

Avyi ivvK : wbevPb Kwgkb GLb hv ejQ, Zv Av`vjZi ivqi ci ejQ| AvcbvK `LZ ne ivq NvlYvi c~e Av`vjZ Kwgkb Kx ejQ| Kwgkb Av`vjZ ejQ, Avgiv RvgvqvZ BmjvgxK wbeb mwVKfveB w`qwQ| wZxqZ Zviv ejQ, welqwU Kwgkb cwqvaxb AvQ| myZivs Av`vjZ GLvb nc KiZ cvi bv|

 

mvvwnK : ivq wefw njI Zv msLvMwii gZvgZB cvavb cvIqvi K_v?

 

Avyi ivvK : msLvMwii gZvgZ AekB cvavb cve| wK ivqi evcvi h wgZ AvQ Zv Zv A^xKvi Kiv hve bv| GwU GKwU ivRbwZK gvgjv| h gvbbxq wePvicwZ ivqi evcvi GKgZ nZ cvibwb Zvi wmvK KvbvfvB QvU Ki `Lvi myhvM bB|

 

mvvwnK : Kej GB wefw ivq _KB RvgvqvZi wbe܇bi eaZv wbq Avkvev` e KiQb?

 

Avyi ivvK : Avwg Zv ejwQ bv| wK wZb Rb wePvicwZi ga `yRbi wmvK iZ w`j Aci Rbi wmvKI iZ w`Z ne| fwelr BwZnvm eje Kvb ivqwU mwVK wQj| Avgiv wMZv`ki Rb Avwcj KiwQjvg| ivqi c~Yv Kwc cjB c~Yv Avwcj Kie|

 

mvvwnK : hw` Avwcj wefvM DP Av`vjZi ivq envj ivL ZLb Avcbv`i KiYxq Kx?

 

Avyi ivvK : Avwg hw`i Ici wbfi Ki Kvbv cևki Di w`Z PvB bv| fwelr fwelrB (future is future)| Avgvi ee njv, nvBKvU Avgv`i mywcgKvU Avwcj Kivi mvwUwdKU w`qQ| GwU QvULvUv Kvbv welq bq| mvaviYZ Kvbv welq Avwcj KiZ nj mywcgKvUi c~e AbygwZ (leave) wbZ nq| wK G Avi c~e AbygwZi cևqvRb coe bv| Avwcj mivmwi `vqi Kiv nqQ ej MY ne| nvBKvU welqwU iZ Abyaveb KiB Ggb wmv w`qQb|

 

mvvwnK : Ggb Aevq RvgvqvZi AvMvgx wbevPb Ask bqv bv bqvi evcvi Kx ejeb?

 

Avyi ivvK : hnZy welqwU mywcgKvU wePvivaxb ZvB RvgvqvZi wbevPb Ask wbZ Kvbv Amyweav bB|

mvvwnK : nvBKvU Zv Aea NvlYv KiQ| wbw bv nIqv ch Zv nvBKvUi wmvB envj _vKvi K_v| Zvnj RvgvqvZ wbevPb Ask wbe Kxfve?

 

Avyi ivvK : Avwg gb Kwi, wbevPb Kwgkbi DwPZ RvgvqvZK wbevPb AskMnY KiZ `qv| KviY, Avwcj Kivi evcvi mvwUwdKU `qvi gvbB nQ welqwU DP Av`vjZ wePvivaxb| GwUB Avgvi AwfgZ|

 

mvvwnK : wbevPb Kwgkbi c _K ejv nQ nvBKvUi wmv envj _vKj RvgvqvZ bZviv Ab Kvbv wbewZ `ji nqI wbevPb Ask wbZ cvieb| Avcwb Kx gb KiQb?

 

Avyi ivvK : RvgvqvZ Bmjvgxi civgkK wbevPb Kwgkb bq| RvgvqvZi wbR^ civgkK ewW iqQ| ZvivB wmv `e RvgvqvZi wK Kiv DwPZ|

 

mvvwnK : Gi AvMI RvgvqvZK Zv wZbevi wbwl Kiv nq|

 

Avyi ivvK : RvgvqvZK wZbevi wbwl Kiv nqwb| Avgvi RvbvgZ `yBevi| 1964 mvji Rvbyqvwi gvm RvgvqvZK Aea NvlYv Ki AvBqye Lvb miKvi| wK H eQii mޤ^i gvm cvwKvb mywcgKvU IB Aea NvlYv Kivi wmvKB Aea ej ivq `q| Gici 1972 mvj msweavb cYqb Kij mKj agxq `jB Aea nq hvq| AZtci 1975 mvj ivRbwZK cUcwieZbi ci mKj agxq `j cybivq Kvhg i Ki|

mvvwnK : Avcwb ejQb, 72 Gi msweavb agxq msMVb ivRbxwZ Kivi AwaKvi nvivq| GB miKvi 72-Gi msweavb divi c| mB wnme RvgvqvZi wbeb evwZj nZB cvi?

 

Avyi ivvK : eZgvb msweavbi Aaxb RvgvqvZmn Ab agxq ivRbwZK `jjvi Kvhg cwiPvjbvq Kvbv evav bB|

 

mvvwnK : ejjb, msweavb cwieZb Ki RvgvqvZK ivRbxwZ Kivi AwaKvi `qv nqQ| wK GLb ejv nQ, RvgvqvZi wbeb msweavb cwicx?

 

Avyi ivvK : RvgvqvZi wbeb msweavbi cwicx GwU gb Kivi Kvbv KviY bB| RvgvqvZi wbeb m~Yfve msweavbmZ|

 

mvvwnK : msweavb ejQ, mKj gZvi gvwjK RbMY Avi RvgvqvZi wbe܇b ejv nqQ, mKj gZvi gvwjK Avjvn| Zvnj Zv msweavbi m mvsNwlKB njv?

 

Avyi ivvK : GUv msweavbi AcevLv| 1979 mvj _K AvR ch RvgvqvZ meKwU wbevPb Ask wbqQ| cwZwU cvjvgU RvgvqvZi cwZwbwaZ wQj Ges AvQ| mwZ msweavbi 38 bs AbyQ` h cwieZb Avbv nqQ ZvZ RvgvqvZ ev mggbv `jjv Aea nq hvqwb|

 

mvvwnK : wK msweavbi 38 bs AbyQ`B Zv ejv AvQ h, agi bvg KD ivRbxwZ KiZ cvie bv?

 

Avyi ivvK : GUvI msweavbi AviKwU AcevLv| mekl A_vr c`k mskvabxZ agxq msMVbi ivRbxwZ Kivi m~Y AwaKvi msiY Kiv nqQ| miKviI Zv KqKwU agxq msMVbi m RvU KiQ|

mvvwnK : Zvnj GLb Kb Aea NvlYv?

 

Avyi ivvK : wbeb Aea NvlYv Kiv nqQ| ivRbxwZ wbwl Kiv nqwb|

 

mvvwnK : Avcwb ejQb, `j wnme RvgvqvZK Aea NvlYv Kiv nQ bv, Kej wbeb evwZj Kiv nqQ? wK hyvcivai wePvii RvgvqvZKI Zv Acivax msMVb wnme `Lvbv nqQ|

 

Avyi ivvK : 1973 mvji AvRvwZK Aciva AvBb evi evi mskvab Kiv nqQ| mekl mskvabxZ GKwU ivRbwZK `jK Awfhy Kivi weavb mshy nqQ| mB weePbvq `j wnmeI RvgvqvZi wei AwfhvM AvmZ cvi| wK wePvii AvM RvgvqvZK Acivax NvlYv Kiv UvBeybvji GLwZqviewnf~Z, UvBeybvji gZvewnf~Z| KviY h welq UvBeybvji mvgbB Avmwb mB welq UvBeybvj Kvbv cKvi ge KiZ cvib bv| RvgvqvZi evcvi AwfhvM Avmj Zvi c wec hyw-cgvY Dcvcb Kivi ga w`q GKwU wmv nZ cvi|

 

mvvwnK : wK h ew`i wePvi nQ Zviv Zv RvgvqvZi nqB 71-G f~wgKv iLwQjb?

 

Avyi ivvK : ewi wePvi Avi msMVbi wePvi `ywU m~Y wfb welq| GLb hv`i wePvi nQ Zviv RvgvqvZi m m wQjb mwU mZ| wK RvgvqvZ bZyb cRbi msLvB ewk hv`i Rb nqQ evsjv`ki ^vaxbZv-cieZx mgq|

 

mvvwnK : GB ivqi dj RvgvqvZi ivRbxwZZ Kx aibi cfve coZ cvi gb KiQb?

 

Avyi ivvK : Av`vjZi GB ivqi dj RvgvqvZi ivRbxwZZ Kvbv cfve coe bv| Avwg AvMB ejwQ, wbeb evwZj nIqv Avi ivRbxwZ wbwl nIqv GK welq bq|

 

mvvwnK : AveviI hyvciva cm Avwm| Avcwb Awfhy RvgvqvZ bZv`i ci cavb AvBbRxex| gvgjvjvi cwZwU ivq wbq Amvl cKvk Ki AvmQb| KqKwU ivq P~ov c_| GLb Kx ejeb?

 

Avyi ivvK : 1973 mvji hyvciva AvBb AvRvwZK AvBbi gvbi AbK wbP| AvRvwZK m`vqi KvQ GB AvBb MnYhvM bq| `kxq AvBbi gvbiI wbP| Avgv`i msweavb nQ `ki mevP AvBb| hyvcivai wePvii msweavb cևhvR bq| Awfhy ewi AwaKvi wbwZ Kivi Rb AviI `ywU AvBb AvQ dR`vwi Kvhwewa AvBb Ges mv AvBb| GB `ywU AvBbi KvbvUvB cևhvR bq| myZivs hwK KviYB hyvcivai wePvi ckwe| GwU Avgvi wbRi K_v bq, GwU AvRvwZK m`vqi K_v| wnDgvb ivBUm IqvP, Avgbw BUvibvkbvj, BUvibvkbvj evi Avmvwmqkb, BD K evi wnDgvb ivBUm KwgwU, BUvibvkbvj mUvi di UvbwRkbvj Rvwmmn Ab AbK AvRvwZK gvbevwaKvi msv i _KB GB wePvi wbq Avcw Rvwbq AvmwQj| mekl Zv`i m hvM w`qQb AvgwiKvi hyvciva welqK iv`~Z wdb R ivc| Zv`i ee GB wePvi ^QZv Ges Revew`wnZv wbwZ KiZ cviwb| AZtci weMZ wWm^i gvm vBc Kjvwii gvag wePvi wefvMi Ici wbevnx wefvMi KZZi AwfhvMI cgvwYZ nq| GB Kjvwii dj GKRb wePvicwZ UvBeybvj _K c`ZvMI KiQb| evwKivI wePwjZ nqQb| myZivs hyvciva wePvi wbq ^QZv Ges Revew`wnZvi Afve iqQ ej Avgiv evi evi h AwfhvM Ki AvmwQ Zv cgvwYZ nqQ| AwfhvM ay Avgv`iB bq, AwfhvM mviv weki|

 

mvvwnK : miKvi Zv ejQ AvRvwZK gvb iv KiB wePviKvh cwiPvjbv KiQ| Kb Avcbvi GB `vwe?

 

Avyi ivvK : miKvii `vweK AvRvwZK m`vq m~Yfve cZvLvb KiQ| GB wePvi wbq BwZnvm nqZ GKw`b K_v eje|

 

mvvwnK : BwZnvm K_v eje gvb Kx evSvZ PvBQb?

 

Avyi ivvK : GB wePvi cwqv h m~Y A^Q, ivRbwZK KviY h AbK ewK wePvii KvVMovq `uvovZ nqQ, BwZnvm nqZ GKw`b GB mZ Zyj aie|

 

mvvwnK : GB wePvi wbq AvRvwZK Av`vjZ hvIqvi mvebv AvQ wK-bv?

 

Avyi ivvK : bv| GB wePvi wbq AvRvwZK Av`vjZ hvIqvi myhvM bB| Ze miKvi cwieZb nj hw` 1973 mvji AvBb mskvab Ki AvRvwZK gvb DbxZ Kiv nq Zv nj cybwePvii mvebv AvQ| GZ KviI Kvbv Avcw _vKvi K_v bq|

 

mvvwnK : DP Av`vjZi ivq evwZj Ki Avwcj wefvM gvbeZvweivax Aciva Awfhy Ave`yj Kv`i gvjvi duvwmi Av`k w`qQb| G ivqi cwZwqvq Kx ejeb?

 

Avyi ivvK : mywcgKvUi GB ivq Avgiv gvbZ eva| GKwU cwZvb wnme `ki mevP Av`vjZi cwZ Avgiv kvkxj| wK GwU GKwU fyj ivq| Avgiv G ivq msy| Avgiv wewZ| Avgiv gb Kwi G ivq bvqwePvii cwicx| wePvwiK Av`vjZ hLvb gZy` `bwb mLvb c_gevii gZv mywcgKvUi Avwcj wefvMi gZy` c`vb evsjv`ki BwZnvm bwRiwenxb| ZvQvov vBc Kjvwii ci UvBeybvj KZK hvexeb Kviv`cv ewK gZy` c`vb AvBbi kvmbi cwicx| Avgv`i mgvcbx ee Avgiv ejwQjvg : h mvcgvY Av`vjZi mvgb Dcvcb Kiv nqQ Zvi wfwˇZ Ave`yj Kv`i gvjvK `vlx mve Kivi Kvbv myhvM bB| wK GUv `yfvMRbK AvR ZvK ay `vlxB mve Kiv nqwb, gZy`I `qv nqQ|

 

mvvwnK : Avcwb ejQb, ivq cybweePbvi Rb Ave`b Kiv ne| AvBbgx ejQb, AvBb cybweePbvi Kvbv myhvM bB| Avcbvi `vwei c hyw Kx?

 

Avyi ivvK : mywcgKvU Avgiv Avwcj `vqi KiwQjvg msweavbi 103(2) AbyQ` Abyhvqx| GLb Ave`yj Kv`i gvjv ivqi cybweePbvi Rb mywcgKvU Ave`b KiZ cvieb| GUv Zvi mvsweavwbK AwaKvi| msweavbi 105 AbyQ` GB AwaKvi msiwZ AvQ| gvbbxq AvBbgx ^xKvi KiQb msweavbi 49 AbyQ` Abyhvqx Ave`yj Kv`i gvjv ivcwZi KvQ Zvi gZy` gIKydi Rb Ave`b KiZ cvieb| myZivs GKB msweavbi 105 AbyQ` Abyhvqx Ave`yj Kv`i gvjv Kb ivq cybweePbvi Ave`b KiZ cvieb bv Zv Avgv`i evaMg bq|

 

mvvwnK : cybweePbv Ave`bi Rb wbw` mgqmxgv AvQ wK-bv?

 

Avyi ivvK : c~Yv ivqi mvwUdvBW Kwc cvIqvi 30 w`bi ga cybweePbvi Ave`b KiZ ne|

mvvwnK : miKvi c ejQ, `vl ^xKvi Ki ivcwZi KvQ gv Avn&evbi myhvM iqQ| mB cybweePbvi Ave`b bvKP nq Mj ivcwZi gv cZvkv Kieb wK-bv?

 

Avyi ivvK : ivcwZi KvQ gv cv_bv Kiv I bv Kiv m~Y Ave`yj Kv`i gvjv mvnei GLwZqvi| GLvb AvBbRxex`i Kvbv f~wgKv bB|

 

mvvwnK : miKvi`jxq GK bZv ejQb, AvMvgx 45 w`bi ga ivq KvhKi Kiv ne| ivq KvhKii mgqmxgv wbq Kx ejeb?

 

Avyi ivvK : ivq KvhKi Kivi mgqmxgv wbq AvBbZ GLb KD wKQy ejZ cvie bv| KviY ivqi KvhKvwiZv wbfi Kie Avmvwg c KLb ivqi mvwUdvBW Kwc cveb Ges cybweePbvi `iLvi djvdj Kx nq| hw` cybweePbvi `iLv Av`vjZ KZK MnxZ nq Ges Av`vjZ gZy` evwZj Kib Zvnj ivq evevqbi ckB IV bv| myZivs Dg cv nQ cybweePbvi Ave`bi djvdji Rb Acv Kiv| mvvwnK

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